Comments on: Powermac G4 MDD cooling and noise reduction http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/ not just cool stuff, all sorts of stuff. Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:11:55 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: bucky http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1675 bucky Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:11:55 +0000 http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1675 Hi Glen, thanks for the comments... it's been a while since I posted this story up & I have moved on to intel macs now, so the days of OS9 are long gone... to tell you the truth I never booted the MDD up in OS9 with nap mode so I couldnt tell ya if it works... but I'd say not. Just watch the mac when it goes to sleep, on mine it turned Nap off & it would get hotter & hotter in sleep then wouldnt wake up ... not good!, I had to set it to never sleep in System Preferences, which was a real pain. I am loving the blissful & reliable sleeping of my two intel macs. Hi Glen, thanks for the comments… it’s been a while since I posted this story up & I have moved on to intel macs now, so the days of OS9 are long gone… to tell you the truth I never booted the MDD up in OS9 with nap mode so I couldnt tell ya if it works… but I’d say not.

Just watch the mac when it goes to sleep, on mine it turned Nap off & it would get hotter & hotter in sleep then wouldnt wake up … not good!, I had to set it to never sleep in System Preferences, which was a real pain. I am loving the blissful & reliable sleeping of my two intel macs.

]]> By: Glen P http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1674 Glen P Tue, 03 Nov 2009 06:15:28 +0000 http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1674 I recently moved on from my G3 Desktop to a G4 MDD 1.25GHz DP machine I found on my local craigslist and have found this article and discussion very helpful. First bootup was like a dustbuster or jet engine, almost immediate full RPM on the fans. I opened up the case and cleaned out most of the dust, refreshed the thermal paste between the heatsink and CPU contacts. Then the computer was more like a dull roar. After lots of research on the old articles from xlr8yourmac I decided to try swapping out the fans. I just replaced the Delta 120mm with the Silenx 18dba/90cfm fan, molex powered, and am planning to do the PSU 60mm fans. I am running 10.4.11 with the version of CHUD that allows Nap mode. (What happens when you boot into OS 9?) I'll have to do some stress testing and monitor the temps. Moving up from the G3 the G4 MDD is a wonderful machine, should be a fun project to get this thing a little quieter. Thanks for all the info. I recently moved on from my G3 Desktop to a G4 MDD 1.25GHz DP machine I found on my local craigslist and have found this article and discussion very helpful. First bootup was like a dustbuster or jet engine, almost immediate full RPM on the fans. I opened up the case and cleaned out most of the dust, refreshed the thermal paste between the heatsink and CPU contacts. Then the computer was more like a dull roar. After lots of research on the old articles from xlr8yourmac I decided to try swapping out the fans. I just replaced the Delta 120mm with the Silenx 18dba/90cfm fan, molex powered, and am planning to do the PSU 60mm fans. I am running 10.4.11 with the version of CHUD that allows Nap mode. (What happens when you boot into OS 9?) I’ll have to do some stress testing and monitor the temps. Moving up from the G3 the G4 MDD is a wonderful machine, should be a fun project to get this thing a little quieter. Thanks for all the info.

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]]> By: Wayne Rose http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1640 Wayne Rose Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:38:00 +0000 http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1640 Hey guys, Yeah bucky, when the new Mac Pro was launched on March 3rd, and the prices on the 2008 models dropped like a stone, I just couldn't resist. Sorry for your ordeal. Glad you lucked out. Thanks for the compliment, Jeff. Running OS X on a Dell, hmmm? Very interesting. I think I might have you beat in the dinosaur department - I've got a beige G3 desktop, with an external 4X SCSI-1 CD drive sitting on a cart behind me as I write. Stills runs like a charm (OS 9, of course), but it's 266MHz CPU is just a little slow. Interesting also that we've all moved on from our Dual 1.42's, and that you both sold yours to music producers. It's a very good machine for that, once it's been quieted down. I've been running Pro Tools, Ableton Live, Reason, Melodyne Studio, Sibelius, Cubase and scads of plug-ins on mine, mostly under Tiger and more recently under Leopard 10.5.5 which seems to make the machine a little quicker. It's a great option for anyone wanting to set up a DAW, or for a graphic designer - and I believe the price is fair. Anyway, the post is here for anyone interested. Please pass the offer along to anyone you know who's looking for this version of Mac. Cheers, -Wayne Hey guys,

Yeah bucky, when the new Mac Pro was launched on March 3rd, and the prices on the 2008 models dropped like a stone, I just couldn’t resist. Sorry for your ordeal. Glad you lucked out.

Thanks for the compliment, Jeff. Running OS X on a Dell, hmmm? Very interesting. I think I might have you beat in the dinosaur department – I’ve got a beige G3 desktop, with an external 4X SCSI-1 CD drive sitting on a cart behind me as I write. Stills runs like a charm (OS 9, of course), but it’s 266MHz CPU is just a little slow.

Interesting also that we’ve all moved on from our Dual 1.42’s, and that you both sold yours to music producers. It’s a very good machine for that, once it’s been quieted down.

I’ve been running Pro Tools, Ableton Live, Reason, Melodyne Studio, Sibelius, Cubase and scads of plug-ins on mine, mostly under Tiger and more recently under Leopard 10.5.5 which seems to make the machine a little quicker. It’s a great option for anyone wanting to set up a DAW, or for a graphic designer – and I believe the price is fair.

Anyway, the post is here for anyone interested. Please pass the offer along to anyone you know who’s looking for this version of Mac.

Cheers,

-Wayne

]]> By: Jeff B http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1639 Jeff B Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:30:16 +0000 http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1639 Wayne: I really like the fans mods you did on the back. You took my idea and made it even better. Well done! Wayne:

I really like the fans mods you did on the back. You took my idea and made it even better. Well done!

]]> By: Jeff B http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1638 Jeff B Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:27:47 +0000 http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1638 I have also moved on from my 2 MDD. I sold both as I now have a macbook pro and a mac mini. Even the mini blows away the dual 1.42 MDD I had. My dual 1.42 was sold to a music producer and my dual 867 to a graphic design student. I also still have 3 other PowerPC macs. I have a G4 sawtooth with a 1ghz upgrade and 3 x 1tb drives that I use as a file server. I also have a 400mhz sawtooth and a B&W G3 that has a G4 600 upgrade but both sit in the corner not even plugged in. On another note I also now have a Dell mini 9 netbook that I am running OS X on. Runs like a champ too! I have also moved on from my 2 MDD. I sold both as I now have a macbook pro and a mac mini. Even the mini blows away the dual 1.42 MDD I had. My dual 1.42 was sold to a music producer and my dual 867 to a graphic design student.

I also still have 3 other PowerPC macs. I have a G4 sawtooth with a 1ghz upgrade and 3 x 1tb drives that I use as a file server. I also have a 400mhz sawtooth and a B&W G3 that has a G4 600 upgrade but both sit in the corner not even plugged in.

On another note I also now have a Dell mini 9 netbook that I am running OS X on. Runs like a champ too!

]]> By: bucky http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1637 bucky Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:02:55 +0000 http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1637 nice one wayne , good to hear from you... I too have moved on from the Powermac MDD to a Mac Pro as of this week. It's a long story that I will be updating soon, but basicly I sold my MDD to a mate( it's now used as the recording workstation for our band). I then bought from a mac reseller in Melbourne Victoria, Australia a second hand Powermac Dual G5 2.5 tower for $Au 999. From day one I had numerous crashes & startup problems with it, not the least being the fans went at full speed and didnt shut up! I spent countless hours reinstalling it, unplugging RAM, doing all sorts of diagnostics to it, but no joy. After 2 repairs( and 6 weeks in the shop), a new logic board , 2 new processors (one was DOA), apple couldnt fix it so decided to replace it with a brand new 2.66 Quad Core Mac Pro. No more sleep issues, crashes etc... suffice to say... I'm a happy camper. This thing is sooooo quick, and incredibly silent! nice one wayne , good to hear from you…
I too have moved on from the Powermac MDD to a Mac Pro as of this week. It’s a long story that I will be updating soon, but basicly I sold my MDD to a mate( it’s now used as the recording workstation for our band).

I then bought from a mac reseller in Melbourne Victoria, Australia a second hand Powermac Dual G5 2.5 tower for $Au 999. From day one I had numerous crashes & startup problems with it, not the least being the fans went at full speed and didnt shut up!

I spent countless hours reinstalling it, unplugging RAM, doing all sorts of diagnostics to it, but no joy. After 2 repairs( and 6 weeks in the shop), a new logic board , 2 new processors (one was DOA), apple couldnt fix it so decided to replace it with a brand new 2.66 Quad Core Mac Pro.

No more sleep issues, crashes etc… suffice to say… I’m a happy camper.
This thing is sooooo quick, and incredibly silent!

]]> By: Wayne Rose http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1632 Wayne Rose Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:47:50 +0000 http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1632 ... and finally: Internal, drives & power supply (360W): http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1055/g4142ghzdrivespsu.jpg Internal, motherboard & cpu: http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8130/g4142ghzmobocpu.jpg Original back plates & screws: http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1366/g4142ghzorigparts.jpg Model ID: http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3424/g4142ghzmodelid.jpg Serial#: http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7966/g4142ghzsnbarcodes.jpg Cheers all, -Wayne P.S. Just wanted to say thanks once more to Bucky and Jeff, who I see are still around, for the labour of love they have expended here - I will always be grateful for the help you gave me. … and finally:

Internal, drives & power supply (360W):
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1055/g4142ghzdrivespsu.jpg

Internal, motherboard & cpu:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8130/g4142ghzmobocpu.jpg

Original back plates & screws:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1366/g4142ghzorigparts.jpg

Model ID:
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3424/g4142ghzmodelid.jpg

Serial#:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7966/g4142ghzsnbarcodes.jpg

Cheers all,

-Wayne

P.S. Just wanted to say thanks once more to Bucky and Jeff, who I see are still around, for the labour of love they have expended here – I will always be grateful for the help you gave me.

]]> By: Wayne Rose http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1631 Wayne Rose Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:43:51 +0000 http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1631 Hi again, Here are a couple of posts with pics of the machine I'm selling, outside and in, including the Model ID and S/N: Front of machine: http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6748/g4142ghzfront.jpg Back of machine: http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9364/g4142ghzback.jpg Right side of machine: http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/7279/g4142ghzrside.jpg Left side of machine: http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9525/g4142ghzlside.jpg Keyboard & mouse: http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9970/g4142ghzkbdmse.jpg More ... Hi again,

Here are a couple of posts with pics of the machine I’m selling, outside and in, including the Model ID and S/N:

Front of machine:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6748/g4142ghzfront.jpg

Back of machine:
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9364/g4142ghzback.jpg

Right side of machine:
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/7279/g4142ghzrside.jpg

Left side of machine:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9525/g4142ghzlside.jpg

Keyboard & mouse:
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9970/g4142ghzkbdmse.jpg

More …

]]> By: Wayne Rose http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1630 Wayne Rose Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:37:53 +0000 http://coolstuff.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/powermac-g4-mdd-cooling-and-noise-reduction/#comment-1630 Hi All, !!!!! G4 DUAL 1.42GHz FW800 FOR SALE !!!!! Some of you may remember me from June to September, 2007, when I modded my G4 Dual 1.42, by substituting 9 low-rev SilenX fans for the Apple originals, and ending up with a machine that ran much, much quieter and 5deg cooler. As I said in my July 30, 2007 post, which describes the entire mod in detail, I had plans at the time to purchase an 8-core Mac Pro. Well, I just installed a new Mac Pro 2.8GHz machine in my studio, so am selling my "cool and quiet" G4. See the story and pics of the mod in this thread, on July 30, 2007 and September 15, 2007 respectively. Here's what's for sale: 1 Apple G4 Dual 1.42GHz FW800 computer with:- Original USB keyboard (with 2-port USB hub) and mouse Fully loaded RAM (2MB) 256KB L2 Cache, 2MB L3 Cache 1 120GB system drive 2 data drives (120GB and 160GB) 2 optical drives (one DVD-RW Superdrive, one DVD/CD-RW drive) ATI Radeon 9000 64MB video card (with one DVI port and one ADC port for dual-monitor operation) 2 USB ports 2 FW400 ports 1 FW800 port 1 Gigabit Ethernet port 3 Audio ports (1 mic in, one stereo in, one stereo out) As you can read in my July 30, 2007 post, I did the mod so it can be returned to its 100% original configuration (though why anyone would want to do this I can't imagine). However, to complete the package, the original backplates and screws, and all original fans are included. Note that this machine was fully checked out by my local Authorized Apple Service Technician (as noted in my earlier post), and has run quietly and flawlessly in my audio studio for the past year and 8 months. This model of G4, less fully loaded than this one, often sells for $900 USD or more. I'm asking $750 USD. Any reasonable offer will be considered. Buyer pays shipping and packing material costs (if any), with no markup - only what it costs me. I certainly don't have to tell anyone on this thread what an excellent machine this is. I'm going to be putting it up on eBay in a couple of weeks, but thought I would offer it here first, since you all appreciate what went into the mod. Anyone interested can post here, and we can connect up by e-mail. I'll check back every few days. Glad to see this blog is still active. I'm certain it will remain an excellent resource for a long time. Cheers, -Wayne Hi All,

!!!!! G4 DUAL 1.42GHz FW800 FOR SALE !!!!!

Some of you may remember me from June to September, 2007, when I modded my G4 Dual 1.42, by substituting 9 low-rev SilenX fans for the Apple originals, and ending up with a machine that ran much, much quieter and 5deg cooler.

As I said in my July 30, 2007 post, which describes the entire mod in detail, I had plans at the time to purchase an 8-core Mac Pro. Well, I just installed a new Mac Pro 2.8GHz machine in my studio, so am selling my “cool and quiet” G4.

See the story and pics of the mod in this thread, on July 30, 2007 and September 15, 2007 respectively.

Here’s what’s for sale:

1 Apple G4 Dual 1.42GHz FW800 computer with:-
Original USB keyboard (with 2-port USB hub) and mouse
Fully loaded RAM (2MB)
256KB L2 Cache, 2MB L3 Cache
1 120GB system drive
2 data drives (120GB and 160GB)
2 optical drives (one DVD-RW Superdrive, one DVD/CD-RW drive)
ATI Radeon 9000 64MB video card (with one DVI port and one ADC port for dual-monitor operation)
2 USB ports
2 FW400 ports
1 FW800 port
1 Gigabit Ethernet port
3 Audio ports (1 mic in, one stereo in, one stereo out)

As you can read in my July 30, 2007 post, I did the mod so it can be returned to its 100% original configuration (though why anyone would want to do this I can’t imagine). However, to complete the package, the original backplates and screws, and all original fans are included.

Note that this machine was fully checked out by my local Authorized Apple Service Technician (as noted in my earlier post), and has run quietly and flawlessly in my audio studio for the past year and 8 months.

This model of G4, less fully loaded than this one, often sells for $900 USD or more.

I’m asking $750 USD.

Any reasonable offer will be considered. Buyer pays shipping and packing material costs (if any), with no markup – only what it costs me.

I certainly don’t have to tell anyone on this thread what an excellent machine this is. I’m going to be putting it up on eBay in a couple of weeks, but thought I would offer it here first, since you all appreciate what went into the mod.

Anyone interested can post here, and we can connect up by e-mail. I’ll check back every few days.

Glad to see this blog is still active. I’m certain it will remain an excellent resource for a long time.

Cheers,

-Wayne

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